Here is a video of a tour group giving biblically correct museum tours. It makes me sick how little they know about the methods of science and how they are ‘teaching’ this to innocent children. Dawkins has referred to scaring children about hellfire as child abuse. I consider these tours to be child abuse as well; they are possibly even worse than giving children nightmares about hell.
I was really surprised how passive the museum employees were. If I was an employee, I would have physically removed the ‘teachers’ from the premises.
I’ve been doing a fair amount of creationist bashing recently, and have have created a new category: “Creationist Bashing.” I don’t think that it really fits into the atheism category. Even though creationists are highly aligned with religion, I don’t consider them to be part of the argument on the existence of a divine being. Even if evolution were to be shown to be wrong, there is still no evidence for a god. This is why I don’t consider creationists to be part of the argument. They are just an easy target for a bit of occasional comedy.
Do you guys think that this is child abuse? If so, should it be punishable? I think so.
[via The Atheist Jew]
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11 Comments on this post
Leave a CommentHorrifying.
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by Patrick Sizemore
yup
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by Adrian Corscadden
“I could be wrong about that”
“What kind of reasoning is that called? That’s called circular reasoning”
You can’t make it illegal, because everyone is entitled to free speech, it’s stuff like this that makes me thing home schooling is a bad idea. When I lived in Denver there was a Mormon family next door, they were homeschooled, the kids were nice enough but the parents used to get pissed when they saw their kids talking with me and my brother. It is stuff like that which should be illegal, keeping your kids in this closed little box, brain washing them because you are scared they might make a decision for themselves. If the kids had a choice, i.e. going to school and seeing the other ideas presented I would find it really difficult to believe that they’d choose creationism. But then again, I find it hard to believe that people would buy Pepsi over Coke.
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by TS
Its horrifying???? You will be sick with Biblically correct tours??? Would it be better if they lied to you? Would it be better if it was told by the tooth fairy? I do not understand the thinking that you show. It has to be scientifically proved? Fine. It should be at least proven but not through warped means.
Home schooling is a bad idea??? Ah no, public schools are by far the better deal. The kids get to watch unrelated movies in class, get credit for being there and learn absolutely nothing. Of course, they can learn how to take the tests that give the school system more federal money. That works. Can you hear the sarcasm yet?
You want brain washing??? Go to the public schools. Go to the colleges where they teach you that life is for screwing up, just DO IT!!! If it feels good, do it. Where are the values??? Where is the morality???? Yes, I said morality. That would be for those who actually care that having sex outside of marriage is a bad thing, like I do.
Those kids who are getting a sound education through their parents are miles ahead of the public schools. I am sorry that you had ONE experience with a bad set of parents. Not ALL home schooled kids are like that but they are miles ahead. They will get the scholarships and be in the best schools in the country in college. Why? Because someone decided to actually TEACH them something. What a concept.
As for creationist bashing, that makes you something of a jerk. Bashing is just that, bashing, as if someone took somebody’s head and started bashing it against a wall. Jerk. Perhaps someday you could have an intelligent conversation. What about doing that for a while. That would likely be different for you???? You know, I cannot stand people who love to bash others. That makes me ill and fighting mad, mostly mad.
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by Jaz
@Jaz
Ok wow….that was pretty angry..I guess I’m going to have to defend myself.
“Would it be better if they lied to you? Would it be better if it was told by the tooth fairy?”
-Um, the people giving the tour were lying. On matters of science, the word of the bible is as good as the word of the tooth fairy.
I was never demeaning homeschooling in any way. I was criticizing the people giving the tour. It just so happened that the kids were home-schooled. I am only mad at the people giving the tour.
How do you know what kind of morals I live by? I have never talked about them. Don’t play the ‘because you don’t believe in god, you don’t have morals card.’ I don’t have to believe in god to have morals.
I would love to have an intelligent conversation with a creationist, but the sad fact is that most don’t play by the rules. They don’t know how to have an intelligent conversation. This reminds me of a cectic comment on arguing with a creationist:
http://cectic.com/069.html
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by Adrian Corscadden
I forgot about this one.
Even Family Guy agrees with me:
Comment left on 3.25.2008 by Adrian Corscadden
Wow, this reminds me of the time I booked a seat for a seminar, held in an observatory, which was entitled “Theories On The Birth Of The Universe”…
When I got there, expecting to hear a bunch of different theories, there was a creationist explaining creationism. Fair enough, I figured this was the first theory he was going to discuss, but nope, he talked about creationism for the full 2 hours!
His main argument was that “the Bible is Scientifically correct”. I’ll point out that he repeatedly told us that “Science is not fact, you can’t rely on science”, when comparing to the big bang. You CAN’T say Science is not fact, and THEN claim creationism is fact “because the Bible is Scientifically correct”. That is totally illogical.
Anyone who raised a question at him was instantly shot down with the words “Well, you’re just another Big Banger, a Bible Basher”. If anyone was bashing, it was him. By the end of the seminar, the whole crowd were arguing with him.
What a waste of time it was. It should have been called “Creationism Preached”, to save us from being so misinformed in the first place.
Long live Family Guy
Comment left on 3.26.2008 by Matt
“Its horrifying???? You will be sick with Biblically correct tours??? Would it be better if they lied to you? Would it be better if it was told by the tooth fairy? I do not understand the thinking that you show. It has to be scientifically proved? Fine. It should be at least proven but not through warped means.”
Were you disagreeing with me/agreeing with me/dropping a stapler on your question mark key or what?
Please enlighten me, I really can’t tell, lol…
Comment left on 3.26.2008 by Patrick Sizemore
Yea I couldn’t really tell either. I think she was mad though….lol
Comment left on 3.26.2008 by Adrian Corscadden
“That would be for those who actually care that having sex outside of marriage is a bad thing, like I do.”
Sex outside of marriage is a sweet deal. I love ‘living in sin’- it makes me stoked that I am destroying the foundations of Western Civilization by not adhering to a 19th century puritannical moral code.
Comment left on 3.27.2008 by Aiden
Ummm — sex outside of marriage is a bad thing, huh? Does that mean you believe Benjamin Franklin, scientist, inventor, publisher, patriot and diplomat, is roasting in Hell since not only did he father an illegitimate son, but he also never officially married his common law wife?
Comment left on 3.27.2008 by feefifoto